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Griffon Vulture

#13
Oláh János
2012-03-18 21:11:31

Hi Everybody,

 

Does anyboday have any more info of the Griffon Vulture observation on the 17th March in Romania near Salonta?

Regards,

 

János Oláh

II. Romanian Ornithological Marathon

#12
Daróczi J. Szilárd
2011-10-25 15:04:26

The results of the II. Romanian Ornithological Marathon

 

This year ”Milvus Group” Bird and Nature Protection Association organized the II. Romanian Ornithological Marathon, which took place at Cefa Fishponds (Bihor County) between 21-23 October. 13 teams with 2-4 persons (totally 43 people) registered at the contest, but there were also participants who didn’t register.

The marathon started on the 22nd at 10:00 AM and finished on the 23rd at 10:00 AM. During these 24 hours the participant teams registered all the species seen or heard in their field notebooks. Unfortunately the contest was organized in late autumn, the cloudy weather and the awhile rain showed their effect on the species list. Despite all these the 13 teams registered (saw or heard) 130 bird species. Between this number and the number of species observed by the winner team there is a difference of 37 species, which means that the winner team has seen only 71,5% of the totally observed species.

From the evaluation of the results it turned out that during the marathon 22 out of the 130 species were seen by all 13 teams, which is 16,9% of the total species list. At the same time there were 26 species (20% of the total list) seen by only one of the teams.

Beside the 130 species observed during the event there were two species (Common Crane and Marsh Tit) which were only seen by the organizers (Daróczi J. Szilárd, Nagy Attila and Siklódi Attila).

The competition between the first three teams was a very close one, the difference between the observed species being only one. The difference in the registered species number is more obvious between the third and fourth teams, and it is 11 species.

From the 130 observed species two species are considered rarities for the country: Pectoral Sandpiper (Calidris melanotos) and European Herring Gull (Larus argentatus) (http://rarebirds.hu/showrecord.php?id=2613). At the end of the contest the organizers decided that the prize for the best species, a painting of a European Roller, would be given to Ölvedi Szilárd who found the Pectoral Sandpiper. The European Herring Gull was found by the winner team.

During the event several species were observed by the participants which are considered locally interesting or sparse species for the territory: Whooper SwanBlack-throated Loon,Squacco HeronPeregrine FalconJack SnipeLesser Black-backed GullBlack Woodpecker,WoodlarkRed-throated Pipit and Firecrest.

Hereinafter we present the results of the registered teams. The first number indicates the total number of registered species by the participant team, while the second number shows the number of species only heard, not seen.

  1. The Handicaps: Dehelean Luca, Gyékény Gertrúd, Sandu Andreea - 93/2
  2. “Birdy”: Fülöp Attila, Máthé Orsolya, Ölvedi Szilárd, Vágási I. Csongor – 92/4
  3. Trinitas: Incze Anna, Kiss Réka Beáta, Kovács István, Tamás Réka – 91/5
  4. Early Risers: Aczél-Fridrich Zsuzsanna, Hegyeli Zsolt, Papp Judith, Papp Tamás – 80/3
  5. The Family: Bozó László, Bozó Zoltán, and the other members of the family – 74/1
  6. Los Rontos: Kastal Ágnes, Patkó Erika, Zeitz Róbert – 74/6
  7. Siskin: Bărbos Lőrinc, Kiss István, Péter Ágota – 71/3
  8. Passer: Hajas-Schmotzer Anett, Kósa Ferenc, Pap Péter László – 66/2
  9. Kalotaszeg: Böndi Erzsébet, Böndi László, Csép Antal – 64/1
  10. Luteus: Botoş Arthur, Vasiu Florin – 56/2
  11. Desert Larks: Magyari István, Miklos Zsófia, Puskás Zsolt, Veres-Szászka Judit – 54/1
  12. Clangula: Kiss Réka, Marton Attila, Sándor Krisztina, Tankó Gabriella – 54/2
  13. Yellowhammer: Andrási Norbert, Nagy Ágota – 36/1

Although we evaluated the 12th best species list, their list was handed down after the end of the contest.

The territory was large enough with diverse habitats, so one could do observations on the fishponds, in forests, bushy areas and scrogs, moorland and different grasslands.

Hereinafter we present the list of species observed during the marathon. The number after the species name indicates the number of teams that observed the species (both heard and seen).

We thank every participant for taking part on this event and for playing fair, searching for birds assiduously. We accord special thanks and we congratulate the Bozó family, who came from Hungary and became the 5th best team with only a few hours of observations.

Congratulations to the winner teams (the first three) and to the finders of the two best species!

We also want to thank for they help for our partners too, the Cefa Natural Park’s Administration and the Cefa Fishpond’s Administration Pro-Acva S.A.

 

  1. Cygnus olor / 13
  2. Cygnus cygnus / 10
  3. Anser albifrons / 10
  4. Anser anser / 12
  5. Anas penelope / 9
  6. Anas strepera / 10
  7. Anas crecca / 13
  8. Anas platyrhynchos / 13
  9. Anas acuta / 1
  10. Anas querquedula / 1
  11. Anas clypeata / 13
  12. Netta rufina / 1
  13. Aythya ferina / 13
  14. Aythya nyroca / 10
  15. Aythya fuligula / 9
  16. Bucephala clangula / 1
  17. Phasianus colchicus / 10
  18. Gavia arctica / 2
  19. Tachybaptus ruficollis / 11
  20. Podiceps cristatus / 13
  21. Podiceps nigricollis / 9
  22. Phalacrocorax carbo / 13
  23. Phalacrocorax pygmeus / 13
  24. Botaurus stellaris / 3
  25. Ardeola ralloides / 5
  26. Egretta garzetta / 1
  27. Egretta alba / 13
  28. Ardea cinerea / 13
  29. Haliaeetus albicilla / 8
  30. Circus aeruginosus / 13
  31. Circus cyaneus / 6
  32. Accipiter gentilis / 1
  33. Accipiter nisus / 8
  34. Buteo buteo / 13
  35. Falco tinnunculus / 10
  36. Falco peregrinus / 7
  37. Rallus aquaticus / 12
  38. Gallinula chloropus / 3
  39. Fulica atra / 13
  40. Pluvialis squatarola / 6
  41. Vanellus vanellus / 13
  42. Calidris minuta / 3
  43. Calidris alpina / 8
  44. Calidris melanotos / 1
  45. Philomachus pugnax / 6
  46. Lymnocryptes minimus / 1
  47. Gallinago gallinago / 9
  48. Limosa limosa / 7
  49. Numenius arquata / 12
  50. Numenius phaeopus / 3
  51. Tringa erythropus / 3
  52. Tringa totanus / 1
  53. Tringa nebularia / 3
  54. Tringa ochropus / 4
  55. Tringa glareola / 1
  56. Actitis hypoleucos / 1
  57. Hydrocoloeus minutus / 1
  58. Chroicocephalus ridibundus / 13
  59. Larus canus / 9
  60. Larus fuscus / 1
  61. Larus argentatus / 6
  62. Larus michahellis / 12
  63. Larus cachinnans / 8
  64. Sterna hirundo / 1
  65. Chlidonias hybridus / 6
  66. Columba livia f. domestica / 6
  67. Columba palumbus / 4
  68. Streptopelia decaocto / 13
  69. Tyto alba / 2
  70. Athene noctua / 5
  71. Asio otus / 6
  72. Alcedo atthis / 13
  73. Picus canus / 3
  74. Picus viridis / 8
  75. Dryocopus martius / 3
  76. Dendrocopos major / 11
  77. Dendrocopus syriacus / 1
  78. Dendrocopos medius / 5
  79. Dendrocopos minor / 4
  80. Lullula arborea / 2
  81. Alauda arvensis / 1
  82. Hirundo rustica / 6
  83. Anthus trivialis / 1
  84. Anthus pratensis / 4
  85. Anthus cervinus / 2
  86. Anthus spinoletta / 8
  87. Motacilla flava / 1
  88. Motacilla alba / 12
  89. Troglodytes troglodytes / 13
  90. Prunella modularis / 2
  91. Erithacus rubecula / 12
  92. Phoenicurus ochruros / 9
  93. Saxicola torquata / 6
  94. Turdus merula / 12
  95. Turdus pilaris / 3
  96. Turdus philomelos / 4
  97. Turdus viscivorus / 1
  98. Sylvia atricapilla / 2
  99. Phylloscopus collybita / 12
  100. Phylloscopus trochilus / 1
  101. Regulus regulus / 3
  102. Regulus ignicapilla / 1
  103. Panurus biarmicus / 11
  104. Aegithalos caudatus / 13
  105. Cyanistes caeruleus /  13
  106. Parus major / 13
  107. Sitta europaea / 9
  108. Certhia familiaris / 1
  109. Remiz pendulinus / 9
  110. Lanius excubitor / 1
  111. Garrulus glandarius / 10
  112. Pica pica / 12
  113. Corvus monedula / 1
  114. Corvus frugilegus / 6
  115. Corvus cornix / 7
  116. Corvus corax / 12
  117. Sturnus vulgaris / 9
  118. Passer domesticus / 12
  119. Passer montanus / 13
  120. Fringilla coelebs / 11
  121. Fringilla montifringilla / 3
  122. Carduelis chloris / 5
  123. Carduelis carduelis / 12
  124. Carduelis spinus / 8
  125. Carduelis cannabina / 8
  126. Pyrrhula pyrrhula / 1
  127. Coccothraustes coccothraustes / 6
  128. Emberiza citrinella / 6
  129. Emberiza schoeniclus / 12
  130. Miliaria calandra / 1

http://milvus.ro/the-results-of-the-ii-romanian-ornithological-marathon/2165

 

On behalf of the organizers,

Daróczi J. Szilárd, Nagy Attila 

Another dreambird for the CB!

#11
Oláh János
2011-06-12 17:06:30

A subadult Audouin's Gull was found by Csaba Pigniczki on the Böddi-szék sodic pan. What a great bird, thanks Csaba!

János Oláh

A new species of wader for the CB!

#10
Oláh János
2011-05-27 22:22:52

Congratulation to János Tar for adding a long awaited new shorebird for the Carpathian Basin list!

Thanks János (Mannu)

János Oláh

Sombre Tit again

#9
Oláh János
2011-01-24 13:40:09

Hi David,

 

Many thanks for entering the details of your observation. Especially your comment on elevation is useful though as you also said it was your first ever experience with the species. It is interesting observation anyway and we do not intend to delete it. It will be a regular practice from us admins to discuss such records and then with no photos it stays on the site with a red dot. It does mean not confirmed but still interesting enough to keep it on the site!

Thanks for uploading and if you have any other rarities please do. Hopefully the site will grow and it will be a good data base for rare birds!

Regards,

János Oláh


Edited by: Oláh János

Re: Sombre Tit

#8
David Horal
2011-01-23 22:57:10

Hi All,

I put my old observation of Sombre Tit from Vladeasa Mts, from the trip in 1996, based on my field notes from one-week trip. The elevation was not 1694 m a.s.l., it was the W foothill of the peak with such and altitude. At this time, we had only very poor, ca 1:200.000 black and white "map", so I am not able to state more precise location or elevation. It could be anything between 750 and 1250 m a.s.l. according to detailed maps which I have now. My field notes also say "mainly spruce forest", not pure spruce forests; unfortunately no details. It was my first sighting of this species; I was first alerted by the voice, so far unknown to me, and then I had opportunity to see the birds well. I knew pretty well both P.montanus and P.palustris which are common species in my home country (Czech Republic). Later (after 2001), I saw (and heard) the species many times both in Romanian Dobrogea (Babadag Forest) and at many localities of Bulgaria. Of course I realize that the observation from Vladeasa was far apart from the species range, the habitat was not typical and - first of all - I have no photo or other proof... It´s the right of administrators of this web to delete this observation or so on. I cannot add anything else. Certainly I do not plan to search again for Sombre Tit in Vladeasa Mts - although I´d love to visit this beautiful area again, the time and other duties does not allows me. Cheers

David Horal

Re: Sombre Tit

#7
Oláh János
2011-01-22 21:22:17

Hi Everybody,

Nice observation and could be as much possible as it is not. The habitat and elevation is clearly not usual and hence the observation would represent the most northern observation of the species we put it into the unconfirmed category with a red dot. We simply need photos or several observers to approve such record as confirmed. So will encourage the observer to visit the area again in the coming year if the birds would turn up again. It would be a very interesting observation.

I totally agree with Szilárd however that by habitat and elevation the Willow Tit would be much more likely!

Cheers,

János Oláh

 


Edited by: Oláh János

Sombre Tit

#6
Daróczi J. Szilárd
2011-01-20 20:51:11

Hi everybody!

 

Recently David Horal uploaded a Sombre Tit observation (see ID: 1265) from Bihor Mountains (Romania). Forasmuch the location and habitat (spruce forest at 1694 m a.s.l.) is fairly unusual and atypical for this species, but much more typical for Willow Tit (Poecile montanus), for me this data is thinkable and I can’t exclude the possibility the observer misidentified this two species.

Any comments are welcome!

 

Regards,

Szilárd

 

 

 

Lar ich

#5
Daróczi J. Szilárd
2011-01-19 22:58:15

There are one, maybe two other records from Cefa fishpond! Attila will send me this/these data soon, and I will upload on this site.

 

Regards,

Szilárd 

 

to János

#4
Dehelean Luca
2011-01-19 20:06:24

Thanks :)

I only know about the Olt reservoirs and the Socodor fishpond observations. But these are already on the website :). If I'll find something new I will upload it.

Congrats for the site!

 

Cheers,

Luca

Well done Dehelean Luca!

#3
Oláh János
2011-01-18 20:38:43

It was great to see today's Great Black-headed Gull observation from Pişchia, Acumularea Murani  oploaded (Hidasliget, Murányi víztározó)! This is a rare species in this part of Romania or in Transylvania. I can only remember one record from the Olt reservoirs. ny other records?

Hopefully more and more observers will use the website and we can get news form such a great observations right away!

Regards,

János

Yellow Wagtail

#2
Oláh János
2011-01-04 16:23:32

Any comments on this wagtail?

the blog has started

#1
Oláh János
2010-12-12 21:26:52

The blog of the homepage has offically started. Any rare birds related topics most welcome. Preferably in english or hungarian. Please use it!

 János Oláh


Edited by: Oláh János